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Community Projection: Felix

The eleventh in a non-alphabetical and irregularly updated series of review pieces for each of the players we predicted last winter. (All entries are linked in the left-hand sidebar, below the Rotoworld stuff and the interviews.)

LL/USSM Community: 206.1 IP, 3.74 RA, 3.31 FIP (n=113)
Actual Line: 190.1 IP, 4.16 RA, 3.71 FIP

Closest Projection: natebracy, 4.16 RA, 3.68 FIP

In the end, it turned out to be an optimistic projection, but not because people overestimated Felix's ability to throw strikes and miss bats; no, it was optimistic because the majority of people figured that Felix would get over his peculiar BABIP and home run/fly ball rates of 2006. You'll notice that the community's projected FIP of 3.31 closely matches Felix's actual 2007 xFIP of 3.41. That means the peripherals were pretty much right on, and that the reason we ran into trouble is that Felix did not, in fact, get over his peculiar BABIP and home run/fly ball rates of 2006. Only five of you predicted a higher HR/9 than the one Felix went on the post, and only one of you predicted a higher H/9. Neat season.

(Of course, projecting strikeout and walk numbers is really easy, while hit and home run rates tend to be all over the place, rendering pitcher forecasts a nigh impossible task, but whatever, we might as well try.)

It's kind of a shame the way Felix's season turned out, considering the memorable way in which it began. His performance against Oakland on Opening Day was nothing short of total domination - he struck out twelve while allowing one line drive and zero fly balls - and as if that weren't already enough, he came back in his second start on eight days' rest and spun seven innings of no-hit ball against the Red Sox on hostile turf in Daisuke Matsuzaka's much-publicized home debut. (This author in particular was thrilled.) If the first start caught people's attention in the Northwest, the second start caught people's attention around the world, and it truly felt like, at last, The King had arrived to claim his throne. What else was there to say? Statistically, Felix's two early appearances held up as two of the top 25 starts in the Majors all season long (as ranked by Game Score), and visually, he looked completely untouchable. Seattle Mariners baseball was about to enter a new era, and each of us was more than prepared for the ride.

Then Felix got hurt.

It's impossible for words to do justice to the feeling we all had when Felix walked off the mound with Rick Griffin that day in April. There's the level of upset where you get a little agitated, and the level of upset where you curse and throw a tantrum, but this was the level of upset where you remain completely silent and think about crying. If it were Beltre, or Putz, or even Ichiro who got hurt, we would've been depressed, but we would've managed. With Felix, though, everyone was left in emotional tatters. How do you deal when the #1 hope for the organization's present and future hurts his arm in the tenth game of the year? How do you handle watching a guy go from lord and savior to medical patient in the span of one week? It was a deep, unyielding pain, and enough to make me distance myself from the team for several days until news of an optimistic prognosis began to spread. Felix wouldn't need surgery, and he'd be back in a few weeks. I've never felt such relief.

After a few delays, Felix was penciled in for a May 15th return, and the fan base waited with bated breath to see how he'd respond to the time off. The answer: not too well. In 3.2 innings against the Angels, Felix allowed ten to reach base and three to score before mercifully getting yanked. Ever the positive thinkers when it comes to our phenom, though, we wrote it off as a necessary re-adjustment to live action, and looked ahead to his game five days later against the Padres. Surely, that was when he'd return to form.

It wasn't. And it kind of stayed like that for the rest of the year, as Felix never quite got back to who he was in the beginning of April. To be sure, there were spectacular efforts like his owning of the Rangers at the end of September, but there were also a bunch of lowlights, like his start against the Angels during the never-to-be-mentioned-again Lollablueza festival in August. "Frustrating" and "inconsistent" get thrown around all the time in describing Felix's season as a whole, but they don't really capture the spirit of the thing. Adrian Beltre is frustrating. Miguel Batista is inconsistent. Felix Hernandez was something else, something greater. Even with all the complications, it was just tough to be real thrilled with a guy like that ending the year with an ERA around four. It shouldn't have happened like that. His first two starts were too special, too extraordinary to be associated with the 27 that followed. It felt like the injury interrupted what should've been an historic campaign, and there's nothing quite like wondering what could've been with someone this talented.

Truth be told, the injury was a huge factor. After coming back from the DL, Felix altered his delivery in fear of getting hurt again, and it took a toll on his repertoire. His velocity stayed around the same place but his pitches lost some of their sharp movement, which dropped his arsenal from "inhuman" to merely "really good". And we weren't used to "really good", not from Felix. It seemed like something was missing, and the results backed that feeling up.

The good news is that, over time, things got better. As Felix put more distance between himself and the injury, he started to trust his body more and more, and his mechanics gradually crept back to normal. In Felix's first nine starts after coming off the DL, he put up a 5.26 ERA. In the remaining 18, it was 3.70. As the two-seamer returned as a more consistent weapon, Felix was able to put people away earlier in at bats and generally become a more effective pitcher. After all, it's a lot easier to succeed on the mound when your bread and butter pitch is actually doing what you want it to. It all fittingly came together in game 162, when Felix bookended the year with virtually identical outings. If nothing else, it was nice of him to send us into the offseason on a happy note.

Still, as nice as it was to see Felix kind of work his way back into shape after the injury, questions do remain, and nearly all of them have to do with the fact that a guy as talented as Felix shouldn't be that hittable. He's allowed more hits than innings pitched in each of the last two seasons, and over the same period of time no other pitcher in baseball has a higher HR/fly ball (using the THT park adjustment). This is absurd, and it shouldn't be happening. What's the reason? Everyone's best guess, at this point, is that Felix's pitching education is still a work in progress. Keep in mind that this is a guy who blew through every level he saw and made it to the Majors basically on stuff alone. He's 21 years old, and it hasn't been long that he's faced the best batters on the planet, batters who can keep up with his fastball and identify offspeed stuff out of his hand. Felix is still learning how to get them out. It's incredibly annoying when you see him make a stupid mistake and offer up a meatball when he's ahead in the count (half of his homers allowed came with two strikes, as opposed to a 30% league average), but it's part of the process, and all we can hope for is that each and every error in judgment or execution gets turned into a lesson. This isn't going to go on forever. There's no reason why it should. Eventually it's going to click, and everything will be peachy.

The other big question with Felix concerns his handling of left-handed hitters. He allowed them to put up an .858 OPS in 2007, after an .819 season in 2006. Without performing any kind of thesis-level study (since I don't have the resources), I have to believe this relates directly to the inconsistency of his changeup. A good change is almost necessary for a starting pitcher to be effective against opposite-handed bats, and Felix hasn't flashed a consistent one for two years. It's easy to spot when it's on, but too frequently it's off, and that plays no small part in contributing to Felix's difficulties. If he can really improve his two-seamer to the point where it's diving around every game, then that'd be enough to mitigate the problem, but honestly, he needs to improve his change unless he wants to battle this issue for the rest of his career.

These would be big problems for a 26 or 29 year old, someone who should've already theoretically come into his prime. Felix Hernandez is 21. Every time you find yourself frustrated with his development, read this post. As annoying as he can be sometimes, Felix is way ahead of the curve. He's going to shape up, he's going to get over the statistical anomalies, and he's going to be one of, if not the best pitcher in franchise history. I don't think it's a matter of "if". The Leap is coming, and one of these days we're no longer going to consider the Fenway game to be the high point of Felix's career. And knowing that this day is somewhere on the horizon is one of the only reasons I still allow myself to get so emotionally invested in this team, because when it comes, it's all going to be so, so worth it.

Now dammit, Felix, quit throwing that mystery pitch.

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Felix is Yours and We can't have him
As a Red Sox fan, Felix is my second favorite pitcher (First being Papelbon) and I envy you guys, being able to root for the incredible talent Felix is.

Felix for Cy Young 2008!

by memoriez4u on Nov 20, 2007 9:35 PM PST   0 recs

Oh, and by the way
Admire your work Jeff. I wish I could someday write like you.

...And possibly learn to pitch left handed too.

Keep up the great work!

by memoriez4u on Nov 20, 2007 9:39 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I'd start with the latter.
There's more money in it.

by Jeff on Nov 20, 2007 9:59 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Nah.
I'm perfectly happy with my $600 monthly pay.

...Wait.

How much did Ho get paid again?

by memoriez4u on Nov 20, 2007 10:58 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

You pay a Ho
Only when the Ho does their job.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Nov 21, 2007 10:00 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

For fun
http://www.lyrics007.com/Ludacris%20Lyrics/Ho%20Lyrics.html

"Hey Ho, how you doin? Where you been? Probably doin' Ho Stuff cause there you Ho again."

- Ludacris

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Nov 21, 2007 10:02 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I have been so overconfident
about Felix's ability and composure that for the last two seasons I expected him to be Shiva the Destroyer of Worlds in a Mariner uni.

Of course I've been disappointed and frustrated, but the upside of all that is that when he finally learns to harness all his ability its going to be as unexpected and awesome as when Putz stepped in for Guardado and we got our first legitimate closer in years.

there should be three levels of terror alert: Jesus Christ, Goddammit, and fuck me! -LB

by Mere Tantalisers on Nov 21, 2007 7:50 AM PST   0 recs

Felix was still our ace
Anyone who says we need a #1 starter doesn't know what they're talking about.

by chrisisasavage on Nov 21, 2007 8:55 AM PST   0 recs

Aces
You can NEVER have too many aces...

by C Cheetah on Nov 21, 2007 9:51 AM PST   0 recs

True
having 2 aces lets you get away with running scrubs out for the rest of the rotation, but really, you have to be realistic, we could really use a couple averagish starters.  If we could get an ace, sure.  We're not adding another ace this offseason, short of a miracle.  

by chrisisasavage on Nov 21, 2007 10:05 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

We need the royal flush
We need an Ace and a 10, because we already have a King (Felix), a Queen (Washburn), and a Jack (Beluga Tits). Ho's not a 10.  He's a 2 at best.  His wife's a 4.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Nov 21, 2007 10:29 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Felix is like a hot chick that leads you on.
One night at the bar she's all over you and you're like "hey, this is awesome!". Then you run into her again a few days later and she's on you again and giving you her phone number and you're like "hell ya!".

Then she disappears for a few months, and when you run into her again she doesn't seem interested at all. But after you see her around a few more times, she start asking why you never called and starts flirting with you, and your interest is peaked again.

Problem is, you don't want to get your hopes up, because she may just disappear again.

Maybe not the best analogy, but it's the best I could come up with and act like I'm working at the same time.

I overvalue prospects

by Thingray on Nov 21, 2007 11:23 AM PST   0 recs

The one night stands are great
But you're worried she might have the Clap Clap Clapclapclap.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Nov 21, 2007 11:41 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

That would be more like Weaver.
For one night it could be great, but then you're stuck with the gift that keeps on giving.
I overvalue prospects

by Thingray on Nov 21, 2007 11:43 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Could we maybe just talk about Felix?
If there's any thread that shouldn't have any reason to go off-topic, it's The King's.

by Jeff on Nov 21, 2007 11:47 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Sorry.
I just didn't want the King compared to a chick with VD.
I overvalue prospects

by Thingray on Nov 21, 2007 11:52 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

You're right too often
If you want to stay on topic, we need some controversy.  Try to write an entire post about why Ho Ram should be given another chance, or why we should resign Weaver (thanks to those great games in August, right?), then I bet we'll see some on-topic discussion.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Nov 21, 2007 11:57 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Actually it happened to me,
turned out she was married. Every time she'd be having problems at home she'd start going out, then her and her husband would work things out and she'd disappear again.

I didn't figure this out until I actually called her, and a pissed off husband answered.

I overvalue prospects

by Thingray on Nov 21, 2007 11:47 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Back to the King.
How do you think the new pitching coach will affect him, if at all?
I overvalue prospects

by Thingray on Nov 21, 2007 12:00 PM PST   0 recs

Not much.
If anything, I'd prefer it still be Chaves, if only because he and Felix were practically best friends. If Felix was going to listen closely to anyone, it was Raffy.

by Jeff on Nov 21, 2007 12:02 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

If a guy can have a personal catcher,
why can't he have a personal coach?

I'm kidding of course.

I overvalue prospects

by Thingray on Nov 21, 2007 12:06 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Does anyone have quick access to Felix's pitches?
It would be interesting to see a breakdown of pitches thrown by type before and after Dave's letter reached Chavvy.

by Matthew on Nov 21, 2007 12:06 PM PST   0 recs

I figured as much.
I'll run it after work, see if anything interesting appears.

by Matthew on Nov 21, 2007 12:10 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Also worth mentioning
yeah his changeup needs work, but a big weapon for him against LHP can be that slider. When he's got it going and it starts on the inner half of the plate and ends up on their wrists, it's unhittable.

by Matthew on Nov 21, 2007 12:08 PM PST   0 recs

That's more of a strikeout pitch.
What Felix needs is a way to consistently get ahead of lefties and keep them off balance. Rarely has he been able to do that.

by Jeff on Nov 21, 2007 12:10 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Good point.
Of course, better fastball command would help too. That's why I'm hopeful for his future (mechanics aside). 90% of his problems seem like they would be fixed with better command and generally your command improves the more you throw. Felix doesn't need to get better stuff, he just needs to be more consistent with his stuff.

That being said, some mechanical adjustments would make improving command a whole lot easier. At what cost though is the flipside to that.

by Matthew on Nov 21, 2007 12:16 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

When did he lose his feel for the change?
He just hasn't been able to execute it lately, it seems. A big part of that OPS against lefties comes from changes that didn't move the way they ought to, IIRC. Its not like he was just establishing his fastball against them.

Going back over all the old scouting reports, its described as being as good as Santana's and one of his best weapons. So what happened? It worked for him pretty well when he first came up if my memory serves me.

there should be three levels of terror alert: Jesus Christ, Goddammit, and fuck me! -LB

by Mere Tantalisers on Nov 21, 2007 12:28 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

don't know
but it's been an issue (LHB performance) for 2 full years now.

by Matthew on Nov 21, 2007 12:49 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Tantalisers is correct though.
All of the old scouting reports list his change-up as a ++ pitch. So, what happened to it?
I overvalue prospects

by Thingray on Nov 21, 2007 3:48 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Right
trouble with lefties aside (I'm sure it takes more than a good change to pitch to opposite handed batters), that pitch was supposed to be his bread and butter in a way. That's what made him remarkable - his slider, change and curve were all so killer it was like his mid-90's two seamer was merely a compliment to them. And suddenly he can only exectue it properly 2/3 of the time.
there should be three levels of terror alert: Jesus Christ, Goddammit, and fuck me! -LB

by Mere Tantalisers on Nov 21, 2007 8:44 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

changeup
After the injury, he started to throw his changeup harder at 88-89.  Pre-injury, it was 83-84 and fantastic.  The higher velocity version wasn't as good; the command was worse and there were few swings and misses.  And it's too bad.  One of the first things that struck me about him was his changeup and how it gave him a package of stuff reminiscent of Pedro Martinez, the only pitcher I can think of who had 3 plus-plus pitches.

Could the reason for the new changeup be because the old one was blamed for his injury, like it was with Rich Harden?  I never read about that anywhere but I can't fathom why such a good pitch would be so altered.

by Samuel on Nov 22, 2007 4:57 AM PST   0 recs

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